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Apr. 8th, 2007 10:14 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
hathycolObligatory disclaimer: I teach a teenager English, and right now, we're studying Macbeth. As such, I was coming at this from the perspective of 'is this suitable for a fourteen-year-old who despises me for forcing her to study Macbeth?' rather than 'is this a good episode?' Also, I study history. So, you know, this is theoretically the Episode Of Glee for me.
Historical stuff makes me happy. It does. In fact, I can't critique in terms of buildings, and costume. And ranting Calvinist preachers! BRILLIANT! I can, and will, critique in terms of oh my god the language used. Shakespeare was a Man Of The People because he used the language of the people at the time and dressed it up a bit. He was most certainly not from the North. I say that as a Northerner. Still, though, I liked the way they presented Shakespeare in this.
I liked the references when Shakespeare used them (didn't Four help Shakespeare write some of Hamlet, though?), less so when anyone else did. I like the fact that Martha is the Dark Lady - possibly not an idea I should give the girl I'm tutoring, as we start sonnets on Thursday...
"57 academics just punched the air." Including me.
Okay. I say this as someone who has done a considerable amount of research on the witches in Macbeth, and if they were pulling the reference from them (I assume they were, especially since Shakespeare wrote Macbeth in, er... 1603ish?) then it makes sense; there is normally a young and pretty one compared to the hags. Other than that, they were still complete pantomime villains. And whilst, in theoery, the idea of words is fine, it still didn't ring quite right. Oh well.
I like that the Doctor (and Martha!) for self-righteous in Bedlem. It was a lovely touch.
My paper described this episode as having Martha and the Doctor 'fall into bed together'; hardly. I liked that scene, and the Rose reference, even though, er, she wouldn't have really said the right thing? Or at least, that's what I think. Sort of.
"You can go back and tell everyone you've seen Shakespeare!" "Yes, and then I get can sectioned!" Hello Marta Jones, I am now in love with you. It is true, yo. That is the sort of pragmatic thinking I admire; she questions how the TARDIS works, she thinks logically about the time period, she doesn't just put a magic gloss over everything and discount her existence on Earth; it's a different perspective. I like it. I even liked the cheesy jokes.
I got Jossed! Bloody bastards Jossed me! Although, hell, I won't complain as long as I got a glimpse of my beloved Elizabeth I. I want to write about why he is the mortal enemy of Elizabeth I, though.
Harry Potter references! Awesome. I laughed the first time, cringed a wee bit the second time.
I actually rather liked this one in terms of 'great fun' rather than 'actually a useful episode'. In the end, it did what it needed to; it lightened the tone, really rounded out the increasingly delightful Martha, and looked quite good. Hardly a classic, but we'll see how things go, eh?
Historical stuff makes me happy. It does. In fact, I can't critique in terms of buildings, and costume. And ranting Calvinist preachers! BRILLIANT! I can, and will, critique in terms of oh my god the language used. Shakespeare was a Man Of The People because he used the language of the people at the time and dressed it up a bit. He was most certainly not from the North. I say that as a Northerner. Still, though, I liked the way they presented Shakespeare in this.
I liked the references when Shakespeare used them (didn't Four help Shakespeare write some of Hamlet, though?), less so when anyone else did. I like the fact that Martha is the Dark Lady - possibly not an idea I should give the girl I'm tutoring, as we start sonnets on Thursday...
"57 academics just punched the air." Including me.
Okay. I say this as someone who has done a considerable amount of research on the witches in Macbeth, and if they were pulling the reference from them (I assume they were, especially since Shakespeare wrote Macbeth in, er... 1603ish?) then it makes sense; there is normally a young and pretty one compared to the hags. Other than that, they were still complete pantomime villains. And whilst, in theoery, the idea of words is fine, it still didn't ring quite right. Oh well.
I like that the Doctor (and Martha!) for self-righteous in Bedlem. It was a lovely touch.
My paper described this episode as having Martha and the Doctor 'fall into bed together'; hardly. I liked that scene, and the Rose reference, even though, er, she wouldn't have really said the right thing? Or at least, that's what I think. Sort of.
"You can go back and tell everyone you've seen Shakespeare!" "Yes, and then I get can sectioned!" Hello Marta Jones, I am now in love with you. It is true, yo. That is the sort of pragmatic thinking I admire; she questions how the TARDIS works, she thinks logically about the time period, she doesn't just put a magic gloss over everything and discount her existence on Earth; it's a different perspective. I like it. I even liked the cheesy jokes.
I got Jossed! Bloody bastards Jossed me! Although, hell, I won't complain as long as I got a glimpse of my beloved Elizabeth I. I want to write about why he is the mortal enemy of Elizabeth I, though.
Harry Potter references! Awesome. I laughed the first time, cringed a wee bit the second time.
I actually rather liked this one in terms of 'great fun' rather than 'actually a useful episode'. In the end, it did what it needed to; it lightened the tone, really rounded out the increasingly delightful Martha, and looked quite good. Hardly a classic, but we'll see how things go, eh?
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Date: 2007-04-08 09:26 pm (UTC)And hee, you got Jossed! I think that should be regarded as sort of a prize, perhaps? You did it first. *g* And please, write that fic. If you can write something that makes me less irritated by the slight tacked on-ness of Liz I's hatred of him, I will love you very much indeed.
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Date: 2007-04-08 09:35 pm (UTC)shagssnogs Robert Dudley, Elizabeth is MADLY JEALOUS' or 'The Doctor accidentally starts a war with the Spanish' but We Shall See.After, you know, I write the five essays that I have, er, three weeks to do. Bollocks.
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Date: 2007-04-09 12:29 am (UTC)I loved "Shakespeare Code," but I think I'm still so giddy from the high-speed internet meaning I can watch it right away that Doctor Who Can Do No Wrong. The Rose mention made me roll my eyes just a little, mostly because I really like Martha so I want him to get over it already. But at the same time, I like that character touch that says it's not easy for him to get over her.
The Harry Potter references, both of them, cracked my shit up. But again, still giddy.
But Martha's just excellent, isn't she? I like her logic and practicality. Love love love her.
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Date: 2007-04-09 09:27 am (UTC)I think I loved it because I got to watch it on a TV that I didn't have to fight a plethora of people for... I miss having TV.
Martha is awesome. She really, really is. Like that icon. *fans self*
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Date: 2007-04-09 09:31 am (UTC)(Which is what being Jossed means; whent he bastards who write the series overthrow whatever you may have postulated in fanfiction.)
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