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Okay, these thoughts aren't in any order at all, but:

Spaceship of Britain is a lovely idea. HOWEVEVER, I am mildly perplexed as to why the only viewing and mention of any Northern counties is something along the lines of Lancashire being the tongue of a spacewhale. If this was true, the whale would ignore any food that wasn't encased in pastry and would have destroyed Yorkshire long ago. I am just saying this so that anyone not from Britain learns some charming foibles of the North. (Disclaimer: I was born in Lancashire, and rather embarrasingly have accidentally not only moved back here but work on a farm in Lancashire, so technically am Lancashire Lass and yes I have been known to partake of the Pie Balm Cake (with optional side portion of chips in gravy, comment for further details.) I'm just SAYING.

A minor quibble. I enjoyed it anyway, and I thought Liz 10 was great and like the idea that we will only retain a monarchy if the electorate forcibly forgets every five years. Is the queen being in charge again a result of a hung parliament that we might end up with in a month? DISCUSS.

ALSO UNEXPECTED DEMON HEADMASTER. Cunningly he appears to have the same spectacles, meaning that he is instantly recognisable assuming you are a mid to late eighties baby, otherwise you have no idea who he is. If you are within the same age range I am, then well done BBC, you were creeping me out with the horrible faces and then you threw a childhood nightmare in the series. THANKS.

Erm, yes. I enjoyed it, and for a horrible minute at the end I thought that Eleventy was going to go all Ten in his angst, but actually I like the idea that he's working it out of the system, learning that the needless angst is quite often inappropriate.

The spacewhale was a cute idea. Don't be too cross, Doctor, a lot of people in Cardiff ate spacewhale for a time.

And oh, Amy and the Doctor. I love you two like pie, the dialogue between the two is just so snappy and perfect.

Is it next week yet?

Date: 2010-04-10 06:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] christidaae.livejournal.com
I was an early ninties child, and I still remember the demon headmaster- I didn't realise when the episode was on, but having another view I've just had HORRIBLE flashbacks to that bloody TV show. Lovely.
Also, I loved your spacewhale- I just realised that!
That's what happened to the rest of the Starwhales.... or whatever it was called. Cardiff ate them all.
I noticed the Lack of Northern buildings too. I think it's cause nothing interesting really happens up here.
I'm a northerner. I'm allowed to make that joke.

Date: 2010-04-10 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hathy-col.livejournal.com
I like that not only are they trying to terrify tiny people with scary clowns and children being eaten, etc, they have also widened their target to anyone below the age of 25. Seriously, would anyone under about 15 have a clue who the Demon Headmaster was?

I think it's cause nothing interesting really happens up here.
I'm a northerner. I'm allowed to make that joke.
As someone who lives in the North, I am allowed to agree with you and point out that it's funny because it's true.

Date: 2010-04-10 06:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
If you are within the same age range I am, then well done BBC, you were creeping me out with the horrible faces and then you threw a childhood nightmare in the series. THANKS.

It was V CONSIDERATE of them to include the late-teen/twenty-somethings in the Let's Scare Them plan, yes.

Date: 2010-04-10 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hathy-col.livejournal.com
It's nice that we are now of a generation to have baddies that terrify us but make no sense to children. So not only do I have childhood trauma, I also feel old. SO THOUGHTFUL.

Date: 2010-04-10 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] susan-ivanova-2.livejournal.com
I was also perplexed at the lack of northern counties (Merseysider here. Not scouser. Merseysider. There is a difference. lol) The south may be more exciting, but, BBC, please remember that Britain does exist above the Midlands.

Alos loved Liz 10. And your comments on the election. Goodness knows what we'll end up with.

UNEXPECTED DEMON HEADMASTER FTW!!! I was also a nineties child and remember him. Scared me more than the smilers. For real.

Eleventy is certainly becoming his own Doctor now. Looking forward to seeing him develop even more!

Date: 2010-04-10 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hathy-col.livejournal.com
In the future Greater Manchester and Merseyside shall be reabsorbed into Lancashire!!! THAT IS A JOKE OBV and one that gets me in a lot of trouble on nights out in Liverpool.

Demon Headmaster in his specs was CRUEL and MEAN.

Date: 2010-04-10 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] susan-ivanova-2.livejournal.com
Of course its a joke, we northerners have that sort of sense of humor but I will be keeping a closer eye on Lancashire from now on lol jk

Date: 2010-04-10 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scarab-dynasty.livejournal.com
No, not yet, but I'll count down for you!!! D:

Spaceship of Britain is a lovely idea. HOWEVEVER, I am mildly perplexed as to why the only viewing and mention of any Northern counties is something along the lines of Lancashire being the tongue of a spacewhale. If this was true, the whale would ignore any food that wasn't encased in pastry and would have destroyed Yorkshire long ago.

Poor old, Britian is Only London syndrome again. I feel we should wave a flag the size of the dales outside of the BBC Headquarters saying WE ARE HERE! Like Horton's Who's.

These were my thoughts too (well besides my thinking “OH MY GOD BRITAIN HAS TURNED INTO DISCWORLD!” at the end XD). I adored the episode for its concepts but overall Spaceship Britain just didn’t feel... put-together enough to actually even BE a country. It felt more like a travelling city (specifically London) than a whole island the size of... well, Britain. Also, am I the only one who wants to know how they worked out the Northern Ireland issue?

There is s much potential for Spaceship Britain as a concept, there really is – what’s going on in different regions? What do different landmarks look like? SARE THERE different landmarks? What kind of world is this? I really hope we go back at some point.

And yes! What I loved was how they pulled back just before they went angst city (or angst country) – I know someone out there will accuse it of being a cop out, to take a third option, but I think it was a lot better than that: had the Doctor actually made that choice then... well, he was right that he wouldn’t have been the doctor anymore, but not just because he had to do something so horrible: because he didn’t try and think of ways to avoid it. He forgot that sometimes, it’s not ALWAYS about making hard choices. It's about risking trying to find a better way.

And lucky for us, Amy was there to remind him. :) we can keep her, right? Please say we can keep her, Mister Moffat!
Edited Date: 2010-04-10 07:17 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-04-10 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scarab-dynasty.livejournal.com
Also a northerner. Also agree that nothing happens (well, they did once stick this great, big rusty aeroplane on it's end, called it an angel, and set it to watch over the fields of the north, but that's another story...)

Date: 2010-04-10 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ann-pan.livejournal.com
Guess what I just found out from a certain website(don't ask me why I was on the Blackburn Rovers website but I was ok?). Matt Smith is half Lancashire--ian.

Lancashire FTW! (even though I am desperately trying to escape)

Date: 2010-04-10 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e-schemer.livejournal.com
Oh god, chips in gravy. Why. Did you have to. ?
Sorry. Good catach on the Cardiff spacewhale :) Distant cousin? That species has no luck at all.

Date: 2010-04-11 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hathy-col.livejournal.com
Also sometimes there are football riots, I believe.

Date: 2010-04-11 11:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hathy-col.livejournal.com
Different towers being different counties, right, ok, I get that, but is there, I don't know, some kind of barrier between Yorkshire and Lancashire towers? Is there an Angel of the North knocking around somewhere? Are there pies? Seeing as everyone still appears to be talking Estuary English, is there a cut scene where Liz 10 goes to Newcastle and they're all "Why aye pet BYKER GROVE" and other regional stereotypes? I hope there is, actually.

Amy is fabulous, if they take her away I shall be very upset indeed.

Date: 2010-04-11 11:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hathy-col.livejournal.com
Lancashire is the best county in the world when you're not living in it.

Date: 2010-04-11 11:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hathy-col.livejournal.com
Chips in onion gravy is marvellous. Add mushy peas for a TASTE EXTRAVAGANZA.

And poor old spacewhales indeed.

Date: 2010-04-11 12:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] e-schemer.livejournal.com
Aaaah, god I love onion gravy, and mushy peas =o Stomach, cease your grumblings!

Mmmhmmm, spacewhales, shame.

Date: 2010-04-11 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scarab-dynasty.livejournal.com
Yeah...

What's the deal with those anyway?

Date: 2010-04-11 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scarab-dynasty.livejournal.com
This. This would be awesome. Seriously, somebody needs to write a series about Space ship Uk. I'm amazsed sci fo hasn't toyed with it before. Also it would be nice to know that Durham is still out there somewhere, with it's cathedral and it's ale...

Hanging her out the door of the TARDIS, with her hiding what I imagine was an expression of sheer joy behind a mask of calm "Hmmm well this is interesting." How can anyone not love her?

Date: 2010-04-11 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scarab-dynasty.livejournal.com
*pats sympathetically.* Most people have that problem with where they live.

Well except for me, because Durham is really awesome :D

Date: 2010-04-11 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hathy-col.livejournal.com
I am unsure. I'm led to understand that it's a bit like when Star Trek fans and Doctor Who fans argue at a convention but with slightly less cosplay?

Date: 2010-04-11 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hathy-col.livejournal.com
There could be a fic for each tower with suitable regional stereotypes! AWESOME.

(I've friended you, I hope you don't mind?)

Date: 2010-04-11 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scarab-dynasty.livejournal.com
Oooh this needs to be WRITTEN.

Hell, in fact, this needs a comm or something, damn it.

(Not at all - mind the squee :) *friends back*)

Date: 2010-04-11 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scarab-dynasty.livejournal.com
Ohhh right, so they throw pop culture references at each other and repeatedly call the referees hacks?

Date: 2010-04-11 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hathy-col.livejournal.com
Both contain a lot of scarves and sometimes there is alcohol.

Date: 2010-04-11 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scarab-dynasty.livejournal.com
Hm. This sounds kinda fun! How can I get in on this football-rioting lark? And may I bring my Journal of Impossible Things? :)

possible fic: Yorkshire

Date: 2010-04-11 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hathy-col.livejournal.com
Jim momentarily put down his pint of ale. "Ee by gum," he said. "We've been floating on t'whale for three hundred years, it looks like."

"Have we now?" replied his drinking partner, Norman. "Three hundred years? When I were a lad, we floated for five hundred years on an anteater to get to school. Both ways."

--

And so on.

Re: possible fic: Yorkshire

Date: 2010-04-11 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scarab-dynasty.livejournal.com

...Brilliance. XD

Meanwhile, in the city of Durham they are trying to have the Miners Gala and Grandma Sarah is explaining to the kids for the gazillionth time exactly why people used to go underground in big buckets, and how there were not ribs, bones and last night's dinner down there. Though logically, I have a feeling Durham's tower would be situated somewhere else; probably further back around the...

Oh.

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